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Tuesday, 13 October 2009

Voch Yevs E Arjantinahay Azkayin Parerar Armen Medzadourian‏



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FATHER FRANK’S RANTS - Ibn Zina


Rant Number 367 13 October 2009


Hua Ibn Zina! let out in utter disgust my Iraqi friend Ahmed. Ibn Zina – not the politest expression in the hallowed Arabic language. He meant Tony Blair. Ahmed has big feelings about the former British PM. ‘Frank, the nasty Ibn Zina is going to be president of the European Union. Ya Allah! How low have you Europeans sunk! You can’t allow it to happen!’

Dear Ahmed, actually if phoney Tony does get the job, the looming, centralised super state, the Moloch called the EU, would get the boss it deserves. Remember - Moloch was a blood-drenched idol to whom Canaanite children were offered in sacrifice. Dig the analogy?’

The day after his friend’s outburst the priest was in Oxford. In the beautiful chapel of Keble College. There hangs Pre-Raphaelite artist Holman Hunt’s painting, The Light of the World. One of England’s most celebrated religious works. Shot through with spiritual symbolism, it shows Christ as Lux Mundi. Like in the Book of Revelation, the Light of the World stands at a door and knocks. ‘Let me in’ Christ begs. The door is that of the human soul, encrusted with ivy and weeds, signifying the multitudinous sins which obstruct man’s salvation. Behind the Saviour’s crowned head the bright morning star is the harbinger of sunrise, the dawning of a new era, bringing humanity glad tidings of liberation from death and evil. A’adhim!

There is however a second light in the painting. A bright one, streaming out of the lantern Christ carries. Pious cryptographers say it means the light of conscience. The conscience of sin, that is. Without which there can be no repentance and no redemption, either.

The penny dropped. The light did indeed dawn for me. I realised what is the chief problem with Blair. Not that he sinned. Only prigs and hypocrites are sanctimonious about individual faults. Sinning is universal. But so is forgiveness. If he admits his guilt, God will forgive even an Ibn Zina. (Indeed, what fault could a child have if was born a ‘child of adultery’?) If the sinner shows genuine metanoia, the Christian term for a true change of heart and mind, God will hug him back. But nothing indicates the light of conscience has ever dawned for Blair. Instead, his inner sky is still covered up in darkness. A dark that seems to go on and on. No daybreak for him. But then no forgiveness either. And so no redemption.

After he resigned as PM, Tony joined the Catholic Church. Well, why not? ‘In my Father’s house are many mansions’ says Christ. But traditionally a conversion to Catholicism often entailed the embracing of a stricter rule of life. Consider the Plantagenet King Henry II. At his instigation, four Norman knights entered Canterbury Cathedral and slaughtered that ‘turbulent priest’, Archbishop Thomas Becket. A sacrilege which outraged all public opinion in Christendom. Henry quickly showed his remorse by doing penance barefoot at the martyr’s tomb. He also submitted himself to a vigorous scourging by Becket’s monks. An exemplary atonement which edified the peoples of medieval Europe. Now, I would not expect Blair to stand in central Baghdad and subject himself to an avalanche of shoe-throwing thrown by irate Iraqis – though I would enjoy the spectacle. That would be a touch too theatrical. Still, the man has shown no sign whatever he has repented of his participation in the unjustified Iraqi aggressive war, with all the ensuing deluge of evils for that unhappy country. Worse, it seems he now intends to ‘reform’ the Catholic Church. That he desires to make it a ‘progressive church’. To conspire to turn it into a weak and feeble and spineless outfit, like the loose, permissive Church of England which he has abandoned. Infernal cheek! After having wrecked his country’s social and moral fabric – his government was the most anti-Christian British government of modern times - this Ibn Zina wants to corrupt the true church. La samaha Allah! If that isn’t demonic, what is?

Yes, Christ stands at the door and knock. He craves to come in and enlighten the soul with the true light of redemption. Note that in Holman Hunt’s painting the door has no handle on the outside. A clever touch to convey the point that God does not force himself unto the sinner. Instead, he expects a free, felt response. The inner light, the light of conscience should generate that reaction. People these days tend to appeal to conscience in self-exculpation, rather than in self-accusation. A worrying tendency. But it is true that conscience can at times be itself degraded. Heinrich Himmler, the dreaded SS Reichsfuehrer, once witnessed a concentration camp execution. He fainted. When came to, he reproached himself. ‘I must steel myself against such unmanly emotions’, he said. Clearly, the original light of Himmler’s conscience had been tragically darkened by the wicked National Socialist creed. In Blair’s case...well, even the Labour Party can’t be that bad. Besides, Ibn Zina has spoilt even that. His New Labour bears only the faintest relation to the noble, generous tradition of British humane socialism. He and his bunch of squalid adventurers have polluted that, too.

You don’t have to visit Oxford to admire Hunt’s The Light of the World. A bigger version is in London. In St Paul’s Cathedral. Where last week a memorial service took place for fallen British soldiers. Blair was there. Rowan Williams bleated a little criticism aimed at you know who. Well, better than nothing. But the Archbishop missed a great homiletic chance. He should have pointed out the picture that hangs nearby - The Light of the World. The light that comes into the world to enlighten every man. The light that shines in the darkness – and the darkness does not overcome it. And he should have intimated to his congregation that the light of conscience is there to remind us of the consciousness of sin. A sin which cries out for repentance, for atonement, for genuine, real penance.

‘Great, Frank! You should be the Archbishop of Canterbury!’ emotes Ahmed.

No, dear friend, I don’t think I should. I am a tad too turbulent for that.

Revd Frank Julian Gelli

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Important Protocol Update‏


The Armenian Weekly

IAGS President to Sarkisian,
Erdogan: Acknowledgement Must Be First Step
October 12, 2009

On Oct. 8, William Schabas, the president of the International Association of
Genocide Scholars (IAGS), addressed an open letter to Turkish Prime Minister
Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Armenian President Serge Sarkisian, in which he
said: “Acknowledgement of the Armenian Genocide must be the starting point
of any ‘impartial historical commission,’ not one of its possible conclusions.”

Below is the full text of the letter, acquired by the Armenian Weekly.

***
Dear Prime Minister Erdogan and President Sarkisian,

The proposed protocols between Armenia and Turkey call for an “impartial
historical commission” to investigate what the world knows as the Armenian
Genocide of 1915.

As the leading scholarly organization engaged in the study of genocide, we
welcome continued investigation that will enhance our understanding of the
1915 massacres. However, we are extremely wary of any call for allegedly
impartial research into what are clearly established historical facts.

Acknowledgement of the Armenian Genocide must be the starting point of
any “impartial historical commission,” not one of its possible conclusions.
The world would not accept an inquiry into the truth of the Nazi Holocaust,
or the extermination of the Tutsi in Rwanda, and nor can it do so with the
genocide of the Armenians.

William Schabas,
President, International Association of Genocide Scholars
BALL IS IN TURKEY'S COURT: SERZH SARGSYAN
Tert.am
12.10.09


Speaking to journalists today, Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan
responded to yesterday's statements made by Turkish officials.

"Unfortunately, our public familiarizes itself with those statements
from Azerbaijani websites, the authors of which, naturally, try
to misrepresent Turkish officials' statements. However, there were
such statements. I think those statements are, in the first place,
addressed to an Azerbaijani audience," Sargsyan.

Sargsyan stated that, otherwise, a very strange for him situation
emerges.

"If, in fact, the Turkish side will not ratify the Protocols, why did
they sign them? Perhaps they thought we wouldn't show enough will and
would take a step back by withdrawing. Perhaps. In all circumstances,
the ball today is in their court and we have patience to wait for
the course of the developments. We have publicly announced our
steps and, without hesitation, we'll move in that direction. If the
Turkish side ratifies the Protocols, we'll go about the confirmed
schedule and continue the process. If they don't ratify them, we
have nothing to constrain us, and we will do what we have announced,
" the president said.
RFE/RL Report
Sarkisian Confirms Turkey Trip, Again Warns Ankara
Armenia -- President Serzh Sarkisian speaks to journalists.

12.10.2009
Armenia's President Serzh Sarkisian announced on Monday his decision
to visit Turkey this week to attend a football match between the two
neighbors, while questioning Ankara's commitment to honor the fence-
mending agreements with Yerevan. (UPDATED)

Sarkisian suggested that Turkish leaders' weekend statements linking
the normalization of Turkish-Armenian relations with a settlement of
the Nagorno-Karabakh were `primarily addressed to the Azerbaijani
audience.'

`Otherwise, it would seem strange to me: if the Turks are not going to
ratify the protocols, then why did they sign them [in Zurich on
Saturday] in the first place?' he told journalists. `Maybe they
thought that we might not display sufficient will and take a step
back. Maybe.'

`In any case, the ball is in the Turkish court today, and we have
enough patience to await further developments,' said Sarkisian. `If
the Turks ratify the protocols, if they stick to the agreed timetable,
we will continue the process. If not, we will not be bound by anything
and will do what we have announced.'

In a televised address to the nation on Saturday, Sarkisian likewise
implicitly threatened to walk away from the controversial agreements,
which have put him at odds with nationalist groups in Armenia and its
influential Diaspora, if Ankara fails to implement them `within a
reasonable timeframe.' Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan
stated on Sunday that the establishment of diplomatic relations and
reopening of the border between the two states hinges on a
breakthrough in the Karabakh peace process.

Galust Sahakian, the parliamentary leader of Sarkisian's Republican
Party (HHK), indicated on Monday that Armenia's National Assembly will
start debating the protocols only after they are approved by the
Turkish parliament. `If Turkey makes any reservations, our parliament
will not even include [the issue] on its agenda,' said Sahakian.

Both the HHK and Erdogan's Justice and Development Party have a solid
majority in their respective legislatures.

Sarkisian also made clear that he has accepted his Turkish counterpart
Abdullah Gul's invitation to watch with him the return match of
Armenia's and Turkey's national soccer teams that will be played in
the western Turkish city of Bursa on Wednesday. The Armenian leader
said earlier that he will visit Turkey it only if Ankara takes `real
steps' to normalize bilateral ties.


BAN KI-MOON WELCOMED SIGNING OF ARMENIAN-TURKISH PROTOCOLS
/PanARMENIAN.Net/
12.10.2009 09:54 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Secretary-General UN Ban Ki-moon welcomed signing
of two protocols paving the way towards normalizing ties between
Armenia and Turkey, voicing hope that the move will contribute to
peace, security and stability in the South Caucasus region.

"This historic decision constitutes a milestone toward the
establishment of good neighborly relations and the development of
bilateral cooperation between both countries," Mr. Ban said in a
statement issued by his spokesperson.

He also expressed hope that both protocols will be ratified quickly
by the parliaments of Armenia and Turkey to "ensure full normalization
of their bilateral relations.

EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE: NALBANDIAN ON BORDER OPENING THIS YEAR
Tert.am
12.10.09


Asked if the Armenian-Turkish border would open this year, during
his interview to Russian paper Commersant, Armenian Foreign Minister
Edward Nalbandian stated that it's a possibility.

"Everything is possible. It depends on how the parties will respect
mutual agreements and how they will proceed. Armenia has always
respected and respects agreements, which were reached with other
countries," said Nalbandian.
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Protocol News - the unwritten link with Karabagh‏




Sent: Tue 10/13/09 6:33 AM


Fox News
Turkey: Armenia Must Pull Out of Nagorno-Karabakh
Sunday, October 11, 2009

ANKARA, Turkey - One day after Turkey signed a deal the U.S. helped
salvage to end a century of enmity with Armenia, Turkey's leader set a
tough condition for normalizing ties on Sunday: Armenia must withdraw
from the disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.

The statement appeared to be an effort by Turkey to appease its close
ally Azerbaijan, which said the new agreement will aggravate the
Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Nagorno-Karabakh is an Armenian-occupied
enclave in Azerbaijan.

On Sunday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan hailed the
agreement to establish diplomatic ties with Armenia and reopen their
border. He called such steps with a former bitter foe an "important
step" that would lead to cooperation and dialogue.

However, Erdogan said the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute must be resolved to
enable Turkey to take steps to normalize ties and for the deal to be
approved by parliament. To take effect, the agreements must be ratified
by the Turkish and Armenian parliaments, but the accord faces stiff
opposition in both countries.

"We want all conflicts to be resolved and we want all borders to be
opened at the same time," Erdogan said. "(But) as long as Armenia does
not withdraw from occupied territories in Azerbaijan, Turkey cannot
take up a positive position."

"If problems be
tween Azerbaijan and Armenia are resolved the public
would more easily accept Turkish-Armenian relations. Approval in the
Turkish National Assembly would be so much easier," he said.

The agreement signed Saturday at a ceremony in Zurich, Switzerland,
would establish diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia and
open the joint border, which was sealed after the 1993 Armenian
invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh. The enclave is inhabited primarily by
ethnic Armenians.

The contentious issue of whether the killing of up to 1.5 million
Armenians during the final days of the Ottoman Empire amounts to
genocide is only hinted at in the agreement, as is the dispute over
Nagorno-Karabakh.

Asked in an interview with French media if Turkey is ready to recognize
the World War I killings as a genocide, Turkish President Abdullah Gul
said: "We are very open on the subject, but if there is such an
allegation ' which we don't accept, by the way ' who is going to
decide?"

He said Turkey has said a committee of historians should decide whether
the killings were genocide. The Armenian-Turkish agreement calls for a
panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killings, including
"an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and
archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations."

However, Gul said, "I think we have to move past this. There is a new
period starting. ... It's a period of peace, stability, confidence,
security and cooperation."

Saturday's ceremony in Zurich went ahead after a last-minute hitch over
Turkish and Armenian objections to language in statements to be read
after the signing was overcome ' by having neither side make a
statement.

In last-minute diplomacy, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham
Clinton intervened to save the accord, which had been brokered by
Switzerland, after a dispute over the statements the countries would
make sparked a delay.

The Azeri Foreign Ministry said Sunday that the agreement "clouds the
spirit of brotherly relations" between Azerbaijan and Turkey. It said
Turkey should not have re-established diplomatic ties with Armenia
before the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh was settled.

Turkey's opposition party criticized deal on Sunday, saying it does not
serve Turkey's interests.

Onur Oymen, deputy leader of the Republican Peoples' Party, said since
the deal does not mention an Armenian pullout from Nagorno-Karabakh,
Turkey would be forced to open the joint border without assuring a
withdrawal from the enclave in return. "These protocols will serve
Armenia's interests," Oymen said. "Turkey is faced with a difficult
process ahead."

The enclave in Azerbaijani territory is occupied by Armenian troops.
Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is
pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey wants Armenia
to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show good will and
speed the opening of the border.
Turkey says deal with Armenia not in effect until Armenia withdraws
from Nagorno-Karabakh
Suzan Fraser
taragana.com
October 11th, 2009
Turkey: Armenia must pull out of Nagorno-Karabakh


ANKARA, Turkey ' A day after Turkey signed a deal to end a century of
enmity with Armenia, the Turkish prime minister called on Armenia to
withdraw from the disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh, saying Sunday
the deal cannot come into force until that happens.


The statement appeared to be an effort by Turkey to appease its close
ally Azerbaijan, which said the new agreement will aggravate the
Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

On Sunday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan hailed the
agreement to establish diplomatic ties with Armenia, which has been a
bitter foe, as an `important step' that would lead to cooperation and
dialogue.

Erdogan said however, the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute must be resolved.
Nagorno-Karabakh is an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan.

`We want all conflicts to be resolved and we want all borders to be
opened,' Erdogan said. `(But) as long as Armenia does not withdraw from
occupied territories in Azerbaijan, Turkey cannot take up a positive
position.'

Erdogan also said a solution to the Nagorno-Karabakh issue would ensure
that the agreement is approved by Turkey's parliament. To take effect,
the agreements must be ratified by the Turkish and Armenian
0Aparliaments, but it faces stiff opposition in both countries.

The agreement signed Saturday at a ceremony in Zurich, Switzerland,
would establish diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia and
open the joint border, which was sealed after the 1993 Armenian
invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh, which is inhabited primarily by ethnic
Armenians.

The ceremony went ahead after a last-minute hitch over Turkish and
Armenian objections to language in statements to be read after the
signing, was overcome ' by having neither side make a statement.

The contentious issue of whether the killing of up to 1.5 million
Armenians during the final days of the Ottoman Empire amounts to
genocide is only hinted at in the agreement, as is the dispute over
Nagorno-Karabakh.

The Azeri Foreign Ministry said Sunday that the agreement `clouds the
spirit of brotherly relations' between Azerbaijan and Turkey. It said
Turkey should not have re-established diplomatic ties with Armenia
before the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh was settled.

The enclave in Azerbaijani territory is occupied by Armenian troops.
Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is
pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey wants Armenia
to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show good will and
speed the opening of the border.

With the agreements signed, attention has turned to an Oct. 14 soccer
World Cup qualifier between Turkey and Armenia.

Turkish President Abdullah Gul attended an initial game in Armenia last
year, but Armenian President Serge Sarkisian has said he will not
attend the return game in Turkey unless there is progress toward
opening the border.

`I strongly believe that he will come,' Erdogan said. `I hope this game
will turn into a match of total friendship.'
ARMENIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: THE PARTIES ARE CURRENTLY
FOCUSING ON DISCUSSION OF KEY ISSUE - NAGORNY KARABAKH'S
STATUS
ArmInfo
2009-10-12 12:08:00


ArmInfo.Presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan are currently studying
the principles of the Madrid document. More precisely, they are
focused on the two principles. In meditation of the Minsk Group, the
parties are trying to bring their stands closer, Edward Nalbandian,
Foreign Minister of Armenia, says in an interview with the Russian
Daily Kommersant.

The minister refused to dwell into the negotiation process and said:
"I can only say that the parties are currently focused on discussion
of the key issue - Nagorny Karabakh's status." Asked if it means
that there are no differences on other principles or it is just
the beginning of discussion of the principles, the minister said:
"There was an arrangement that the presidents would speak of specific
principles and when agreements are achieved they will start discussing
the next issues. It is a reasonable approach and all the participants
in the negotiation process understand this. If the parties agree on
the principles, we will start preparing the peace treaty. We believe
that Karabakh, Armenia and Azerbaijan must prepare that document." At
the same time, the minister said he would not like to make any hasty
statements that there will be a breakthrough already tomorrow, or in
a month or two. "Over the last few months, the negotiations on the
basis of the Madrid principles have got off the ground. The start of
the process is in question. The process has positive dynamics," the
minister says. As regards the Minsk Group and Russia's involvement
in the process i.e. if it is a single or two parallel processes,
the minister said these are complementary processes. "If one of the
Minsk Group co-chair-states can help, so why shouldn't it do that? It
must be welcomed. In 2001 France, the French president, had an active
part in the process. The Paris principles were agreed then and the
parties tried to express them in the document known as the Key West
document. Now Russia and the Russian president are playing an active
role in the settlement process," Nalbandian says.

Asked about the "closed" negotiations on Nagorny Karabakh, the
minister said: "I don't think that these negotiations as more secret
than any other ones. Many serious negotiations are conducted without
press conferences and interviews to the press. Negotiations are
negotiations. One beautiful day their content will be made public
like it was with the Armenian-Turkish negotiations. At one point we
decided to make them open on mutual consent of the parties. It was
before the singing, which is generally not practiced.

Agreements are often made public after they are already signed. We
do not welcome secrecy but negotiations are held between two and even
more parties.

In the case of the Karabakh there are three parties," the minister
says.
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Protocol News - the Turkish reaction‏


(read in particular the last sentence in the final analysis article)
AHMET DAVUTOGLU: TURKEY-ARMENIA RELATIONS ENTERED A NEW PERIOD

/PanARMENIAN.Net/
12.10.2009 10:04 GMT+04:00


/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said
Sunday the crisis experienced yesterday in Zurich prior to the
ceremony of signing the protocols between Turkey and Armenia was
"a procedural matter".

Speaking on Turkey's state-run TRT TV channel on Sunday, Davutoglu
said that the signing of the protocols was a "crucial step".

The protocols are a reflection of Turkey's peaceful vision, Davutoglu
stressed. "The crisis lived prior to the signature ceremony was a
natural component of the process. The crisis was a procedural issue. It
concerned statements to be made during the ceremony and was overcome
after both sides agreed not to make remarks," Davutoglu said.

"Turkey's perspective is comprehensive peace. This would be
possible if all sides tackle problems in a just and equal way,"
he noted. "Relations between Turkey and Armenia have entered a new
period. With this new period, people of Turkey and Armenia will be
able to understand each other more accurately."

At that the Turkish FM emphasized that resolution of the
Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict is crucial and Turkey has taken
relevant steps.

"It is out of question for Turkey to leave Azerbaijan alone whatever
the conditions may be," Davutoglu said
.

"Since the Kars Treaty, Turkey and Armenia have signed the first
different document. The protocol signed defined Turkish-Armenian
relations and placed relations within a frame. Once the protocols
go into effect, relations between Turkey and Armenia will be
normalized. The protocols will facilitate greater cooperation
between Turkey and Armenia at international forums and will help end
mutual pre-conceived notions in the minds of our peoples. Turkey has
confidence in itself. The engine of surrounding countries is Turkey. We
do not want a poor neighbor. Our neighbor should get richer but should
have respect for the rights of another neighbor," Davutoglu said
.

"The Treaty of Kars was one that defined the borders o not lose
legitimacy even if the governments do not exist any more
. The protocol
signed on Saturday has a provision that refers to recognition of the
existing borders (between Turkey and Armenia). We have no concerns
about it," he concluded, World Bulletin reported.


The Journal of Turkish Weekly
Historical Protocols Signed by Turkey and Armenia
Sunday, 11 October 2009

ZURICH - Turkey and Armenia have agreed to establish diplomatic
relations.

The "Protocol on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations Between the
Republic of Turkey and the Republic of Armenia" was signed by Turkish
Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and his Armenian counterpart Eduard
Nalbandian in Swiss city of Zurich on Saturday.

The protocol envisages mutual recognition of the existing border
between the two countries.

Under the protocol, Turkey and Armenia reconfirmed their commitment,
in their bilateral and international relations, to respect and ensure
respect for the principles of "equality, sovereignty, non-intervention
in internal affairs of other states, territorial integrity and
inviolability of frontiers".

Turkey and Armenia also condemned all forms of terrorism, violence and
extremism irrespective of their cause, pledging to refrain from
encouraging and tolerating such acts and to cooperate in combating
against them.

* TURKEY AND ARMENIA SIGN PROTOCOLS - PROTOCOL ON
DEVELOPING RELATIONS
BETWEEN TURKEY & ARMENIA SIGNED

- Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and his Armenian
counterpart Eduard Nalbandian signed Saturday a protocol on developing
relations between their two countries.

The "Protocol on Developing Relations between the Republic of Turkey
and the Republic of Armenia" was signed by Davutoglu and Nalbandian in
Swiss city of Zurich.

The protocol aims to facilitate the development of relations between
Turkey and Armenia in all fields and took significant steps within
this frame.

One of the steps has to do with the opening of the Turkish-Armenian
border two months after the protocol goes into effect. The two
countries have decided to establish committees in various fields and
at various levels. An historical sub-committee will be established
with the participation of international experts
.

TURKISH OPPOSITION CRITICIZE AGREEMENT SIGNED BETWEEN
YEREVAN AND ANKARA
/PanARMENIAN.Net/
12.10.2009 12:30 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Opposition parties of Turkey have criticized an
agreement signed between Turkey and Armenia on Saturday to establish
diplomatic relations by describing the move a "step backward" in
Turkish foreign policy.

Main opposition Republican People's Party (CHP) Deputy Chairman Onur
Oymen said that the protocol signed in Zurich is evidence that Turkey
has taken a step back in its fundamental foreign policy regarding
Armenia for the past 17 years.|

Indicating that a process of normalization with Armenia "can only take
place if Armenia withdraws from Azerbaijani territory",
Oymen argued
that Turkey had made unilateral concessions with the agreement. "There
will be great pressure in Turkey following these signatures because
the protocol texts include articles about Turkey opening its border
and establishing diplomatic ties, but there is not even the slightest
sign that Armenia will withdraw from the territories it invaded. There
is not the slightest reference to the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute,"
Oymen said.

Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) leader Devlet Bahceli said the day
the agreement was signed was a "black day."
He said protocols signed
with Armenia were not based on reciprocity and that they were not
equal and balanced.

Felicity Party (SP) leader Numan Kurtulmus, also joined the critics of
the protocol, describing it a "historic mistake."
He said this issue
first being handled in Parliament, which represents the will of the
nation, was the necessity of democratic ethics. "The [Justice and
Development Party] AK Party's concessive attitude under the cover
of its 'zero problems policy' not only undermines Turkish foreign
policy, it also casts a shadow over Turkey's prestige," Kurtulmus,
said, reported Today's Zaman.


TURKISH PARTY KEEPS ON CLAIMING ABOUT INTERCONNECTION
OF NORMALIZATION OF RELATIONS WITH ARMENIA WITH KARABAKH
CONFLICT SETTLEMENT
ArmInfo
2009-10-12 11:26:00


ArmInfo. The Turkish party keeps on claiming about interconnection
of normalization of relations with Armenia with the Karabakh conflict
settlement.

As APA reports quoting the Turkish news agencies, Prime Minister
of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the following when commenting
on signing of the Armenian- Turkish Protocols: "If Armenia doesn't
withdraw from the Azerbaijani lands, its normal relations with
Turkey are impossible". "The Turkish government opened this way. Our
intention is that the Armenian-Azerbaijani Nagorno Karabakh conflict
to be solved. If this problem is solved, our people will support the
normalization of relations yet more and it will ease the approval
of protocols at the parliament", Erdogan said and added that the
parliament will certainly review the process of solution of the
Armenian-Azerbaijani problem. "We have sent some messages and
made some steps since 2003. We eased visa regime for the Armenian
citizens. I proposed to the Armenian president in 2005 to leave their
claims, to establish historical fact-finding commission, to research
archive materials and to make decision after the experts' opinion",
the Turkish PM said.
RFE/RL Report
Turkey -- Bursa city residents protest as local authorities banned to
wave Azeri flags at the Turkey-Armenia football match due on October
14, 11Oct2009

Sarkisian said on Monday that `sufficient prerequisites' are now in
place for the landmark trip. `Turkey's president, Mr. Gul, had
responded to my invitation and come to Armenia [in September 2008,]
and I now see no serious basis not to accept his invitation,' he said.
`My counterpart has sent a written invitation, and unless something
extraordinary happens in the next two days, I will go to Bursa and
cheer for my favorite team.'

The president answered journalists' questions at Yerevan's Zvartnots
as he prepared to fly to Moscow for what his office described as a
brief working visit. Shortly before his departure, Sarkisian sent a
letter to U.S. President Barack Obama thanking Washington for its
active role in the Turkish-Armenian dialogue.

"I am convinced that without the decisive help of the United States it
would have been impossible to make effective efforts in this
direction," he said after "warmly" congratulating Obama on winning the
Nobel Peace Prize.

Meanwhile, Turkey's Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Cicek said later on
Monday that the Erdogan government will send the protocols to the
Turkish parliament `next week.' `The assembly will decide whether to
approve or reject them," Cicek told reporters after a cabinet meeting.
But he underlined that the `parliament will undoubtedly follow
developments in Armenia during this process.'

According to the AFP news agency, Cicek described the pacts as a
`sincere and serious show of will' by Turkey. But he reiterated that
lasting peace in the region also depends on the resolution of the
Karabakh dispute.
Journal of Turkish Weekly
Monday, 12 October 2009
Armenian Diaspora is Egoist
Sunday, 11 October 2009


Armenian people is one of the ancient tribes. They created a great
civilization and contributed to the humanity and other civilizations a
lot. They established kingdoms and states as well. However as they
settled mainly on the crossroads of the civilizations, religions,
sects, races and great kingdoms, they could not maintain their
independence. As a result they have generally lived under the other
nations' sovereignty. Iranian Empire, Byzantium Empire, Russian
Empire, Arab Kingdoms, Seljuki and Ottoman Empires and Soviet
`Empire'. They enjoyed great freedom under Seljuki and Ottoman Empires
however many Armenians were tortured and deported by the Byzantium
Emperors due to the religious disputes. Most of the time, they could
not become soldiers or governors.

In brief the main problem for the Armenian peoples was lack of a
state.

When the French Revolution triggered the nationalist movements in the
world, the Armenians were not ready for such a radical change:

The Ottoman Armenians were enjoying a great religious freedom and they
were among the most wealthiest class in the empire. Many Armenian
bankers, businessmen, doctors and intellectuals were very close to the
Palace. The Ottoman Armenians in the towns and rural areas were mostly
bankers, businessman or craftsmen. The Armenians with the Ottoman
Greeks dominated the Ottoman export and import. Moreover the Ottoman
Armenian population was not majority in any region. About 1 million
Armenians were scattered around the huge Ottoman territories. In
another word the Ottoman Armenians were not ready for a separatist
nationalist revolt. They were actually happy with the existing
system. The Church in particular had great privileges before the
Ottoman State and a great power over the Armenian citizens.

Under these circumstances, the Armenian nationalism was developed in
diaspora namely in Switzerland and Georgia. Tashnak and Hinchak
`parties' were estab ng and inexperienced in politics. They had no
enough power and financial support to struggle against the
Empires. Apart from these, the young Armenian idealists set a
formidable task for the Armenian nationalism: To unite all Armenians
in the Ottoman, Russian, Iranian Empires and other Armenians in the
region under a separate Armenian State.

So, they needed foreign assistance, and the great imperial powers were
very eager to `undermine' the Ottoman Empire. The British, French and
Russian Empires gave a great encouragement to the Tashnaks and other
Armenian groups. However they did not fully keep their promises and
when they reached agreements with the Istanbul Government the Armenian
nationalists failed.

Furthermore the Armenian nationalists were encouraged but not fully
supported when needed. Another problem was that the Ottoman Armenians
did not strongly join the Armenian nationalists. Many Armenians in the
Ottoman towns were against the Armenian militants. Therefore the first
target to be destroyed was seen as the Ottoman Armenian leaders.

Many Armenian leaders were murdered by the Tashnak and other Armenian
militants. They accused all Armenian opposition of being traitor. The
Armenian terrorism killed more Armenians than the Muslims in the
beginning of the 20th Century. The Armenian businessmen were
threatened and forced to give `tax' to the illegal Armenian
groups. The Tashnak militants transferred a huge amount of weapons,
provided by Russia and Britain, to the Ottoman towns. They were
preparing a war and revolt against the Istanbul Government. They
organized many terrorist attacks against the politicians and
institutions. In 1876 the Armenian militants attacked the Ottoman Bank
and exploded bombs before the bank. They further organized an
assassination against the Sultan (Head of State) II. Abdulhamid.

When the First World War erupted, the Armenian extremists saw the war
as an opportunity and the co-operation between the Armenians and
Allied States increased. The Russian, British and French Emp
e in war against the Ottoman Empire, Germany and Austrian Empire,
considered the Christian minorities as a tool against the
Ottomans. Thus the Armenian nationalists were encouraged for more
terrorist attacks, revolts and weapon transfers to Anatolia. The Van
Revolt was one of the most vivid examples for the Armenian
Revolts. The Tashnaks in the Van Revolt aimed to `clean the region
from the Muslims'. Thousands of Muslims were killed or forced to leave
the region. At the end the Armenians declared their independence in
Van province and then handled the city to the Russian occupying
forces.

The Armenian nationalist `adventure' ended with a tragedy which cost
500.000 Muslim and more than 110.000 Armenian lives. About Thousands
of Armenians were relocated, and many died due to the war
circumstances.

The Armenians rioted against the Government in many towns and attacked
their Muslim neighbors with the French, Russian and British
encouragement. However the occupiers did not keep their promises and
with the end of the war the Armenians could not return their
homes. Many immigrated to the European and North American states.

The cost of the revolt was very high for the Armenian
nationalism. Nevertheless they could establish a tiny state in
Caucasus under the Tashnak rule. It is unfortunate that the Tashnaks
could not learn anything from the Ottoman Armenian experience and they
started a `revenge campaign' (NEMESIS) against the newly-established
Turkish State. As a matter of fact that the last thing Independent
Armenia needed was a `revenge conflict' with the Turks. Armenia was a
`country of dead' at that time. Armenian population was suffering from
famine and epidemic diseases, and more than 200.000 Armenians died
under these circumstances in the Tashnaks' Independent
Armenia. However the Armenian `leaders' did not focus on their own
economic development, social and cultural problems and political
relations with the neighboring countries while the newly Turkey's
Government sole dealt with the problems. The Armenian terrorists killed
many former Ottoman ministers. But the Tashnak attacks not only killed
the Turkish targets but also ended the independence of Armenia.

Armenia lost its independence and became a Soviet Republic under
Moscow rule.

Armenians once more had to immigrate to the West. They suffered a lot
from lack of an independent state. They had no reasonable leader who
could lead them under the realistic and pragmatic principles instead
of purely naïve emotional motivations.

Under the lack of leadership, Armenians were exposed the great powers
national interests. Moscow, Washington, Paris and London abused the
Armenian issue.

Armenia gained its independence once more in 1991 after the decades
when the Soviet Empire collapsed. It is unfortunate that the Diaspora
Armenians and Tashnaks again just focused on their own interests
instead of saving the newly-established Armenia. Tashnaks played a
crucial role in declaring war against the Azerbaijanis. The Diaspora
encouraged more wars and tension to capture the `lost territories' in
Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan.

While the other former Sviet republics tried to decrease their
dependency on Russia, Armenia more and more became a `Russian orbit'
in the region. When Russia lost its military bases in Azerbaijan and
Georgia, Armenians invited the Russians to their country. As a result
of dependency on Russia, Armenia has been isolated and when they could
not repay the credits the energy, communication and transportation
infrastructure have been sold out to the Russians.

The new Armenian nationalists and Diaspora saw Turkey the most deadly
enemy, though Turkey was one of the first states who recognized
Armenian independence. Actually Turkey considered Armenian State as an
opportunity to normalize the Turkish-Armenian relations. However
Armenian Diaspora was seriously reluctant in normalizing the relations
because it established the Armenian identity on anti-Turkishness. The
1915 Legacy and anti-Turkish accusations have been the only uniting
factor in the diaspora. They feared th Armenians in the West could be
accelerated.

The Church and the political parties have used the Turkish-Armenian
problems for decades in cementing the non-homogenous Armenian
society. Moreover anti-Turkish Armenian Case was financial and
prestige source for many Armenians and Diaspora institutions.

In another words the Diaspora Armenians abused the problems with Turks
for their personal and institutional interest at the cost of
Armenia. Their priority was not State of Armenia but the
Diaspora. They knew that the land-locked and relatively poor Armenia
had to solve its disputes with Turkey in order to survive. However
they sacrificed Armenian state once again as they did in 1918.

To conclude, the foremost priority for the whole Armenians must to
protect and survive the young Armenia, instead of strengthening the
Armenian diaspora. Armenia should not be part of the adventurous games
of its Diaspora and Russia.
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Dear Friends,

On October 10th, the Turkey-Armenia Protocols were signed, after months of intense pressure by the Obama Administration on the landlocked and blockaded country of Armenia. These agreements threaten Armenia's security, surrender the rights of the Armenian nation, and insult the dignity of every Armenian.

As a Senator and Presidential candidate, Barack Obama pledged clearly and unequivocally to recognize the Armenian Genocide. Since his election, however, his Administration has squandered the opportunity to bring real peace to the Caucasus, choosing to back secret negotiations in support of a deal that would create a "commission" calling into question the Armenian Genocide.

As ANCA Chairman Ken Hachikian put it, "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays."

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Protocol background articles‏

ARMENIANS ANGRY OVER TURKEY ACCORDS
By Tanya Goudsouzian
09/10/09

Diaspora Armenians have held annual commemorations of what they claim
is a genocide perpetrated by Turkey in 1915 and say the draft protocols
could whitewash Ankara's role [AFP]

When the Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers meet in Switzerland
on October 10 to sign an agreement to normalise relations, they will
put a century of conflict and controversy behind them.

The draft protocols of agreement, first made public on August 31,
seek to establish diplomatic relations and the possible reopening of
the long-closed Turkish-Armenian border.

However, the draft protocols have sparked heated debate among
nationalists on both sides and provoked outraged condemnation from
many diaspora Armenians.

There have been protests in the Armenian capital Yerevan and
demonstrations across Argentina, Canada, France, Lebanon, Russia and
the US.

"Armenia is not for sale," they say, with some going as far as branding
Serzh Sarkisian, the Armenian president, a traitor.

Armenian genocide claims
In 2008, Abdullah Gul, left, met with Sarkisian in Yerevan to launch
the draft protocols [EPA] The move to sign the protocols comes one
year after an historic visit to Armenia by Abdullah Gul, the Turkish
president and follow, reportedly, months of secret talks brokered by
Swiss mediators.

Earlier this month, Sarkisian began a world tour of diaspora Armenian
communities in an effort to alleviate their concerns and explain his
government's position.

However, it is doubtful he will succeed as many Armenians believe
the protocols relinquish too many of their rights for far too little
in return.

Pitched as a means to boost landlocked Armenia's stagnant economy,
the protocols are being rushed through the legislature in the capital
Yerevan.

Critics believe the protocols have been hastily drawn up and largely
favour Turkey.

If the protocols are ratified, they say, Armenia would essentially
forfeit its right to demand that Turkey recognise, and be held
accountable for, what they describe as the genocide in which more
than 1.5 million Armenians perished.

Ankara has always rejected such charges and says many died on both
sides during the first world war.

While noted experts around the world have already established the
veracity of Armenian genocide claims, the protocols call for the
establishment of an independent fact-finding commission to "determine
the truth".

"These protocols, by establishing a historical commission, fuel
Turkey's denial of the Armenian genocide, a policy that represents
a grave offence to the Armenian nation and a direct security threat
to the Republic of Armenia," says Aram Hamparian, executive director
of the Armenian National Committee of America.

"In requiring that the borders be recognis ed first, as a precondition
for even the establishment of relations, the Turkish side clearly
seeks to pressure the Armenian government into forfeiting the rights
of all Armenians to a just resolution of this crime."

Nagorno-Karabakh
In 1988, Armenia and Azerbaijan clashed over the disputed enclave of
Nagorno-Karabakh after ethnic Armenians declared their independence
from Azerbaijani rule.

Armenian forces seized control of the disputed territory and seven
surrounding regions from Azerbaijan in the early 1990s and declared
an independent state - the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.

Turkey sided with Azerbaijan, a country it feels is a traditional
and ethnic ally, imposed an embargo on Yerevan, and closed the
border thereby preventing land-locked Armenia from easy access to
European trade.

Despite repeated diplomatic efforts since a tenuous ceasefire took
hold in 1993, Armenia and Azerbaijan have failed to negotiate a
settlement on the region's status.

However, since the protocol agreements were first drafted, Turkey
has promised that it will re-open borders with Armenia, leaving
Azerbaijan fearful of losing any leverage it may have had in final
settlement talks.

Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, meanwhile, fears losing its only real
support for independence in Yerevan in favour of the protocols
with Turkey.

US influence
Armenia was the only country to recognise the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic
Joseph Kechichian, editor of the Journal of the Society for Armenian
Studies, told Al Jazeera: "The Turks are in a bind vis-a-vis Azerbaijan
because if, and when, they open the border, Azerbaijan will fall back
into even more irrelevance."

"Watch for added Azeri pressure on Turkey in the weeks and months
to come.

What kind of economic sweeteners will be dangled by Moscow and
Ankara in front of Yerevan and Baku will probably determine whether
contemplated accords will work," he said.

Kechichian also believes that ratification of the protocols will
strengthen US influence in the region, if indirectly, through its
traditional ally and fellow Nato member Turkey.

Some experts believe that since the visit of Barack Obama, the US
president, to Turkey in April, there has been growing momentum in the
Middle East and South Caucasus to position Ankara as a counterweight
to Iranian and Russian influence in the region.

"Sadly, it would seem that the US, in pressuring Armenia to accept
the one-sided terms of these protocols, is effectively acting as
Turkey's surrogate in the region," says Hamparian.

Armenian interests sidelined?
Vartan Oskanian, a former Armenian foreign minister, has also voiced
reservations. While supporting the establishment of normal relations
with Turkey, he maintains he "would have never signed this document".

According to Oskanian, the protocols - prepared with the participation
of the US and other influential countries - do not ser ve Armenian
interests.

He has urged people to hold mass rallies "so that the authorities
can understand that 70 per cent of the people [are] against it".

But many Armenians inside the country believe that "bread-and-butter"
realities must precede any lofty historical principles.

Relations with Turkey, they argue, are essential to improving
Armenia's crippled economy. They dismiss as irrelevant the protests
and condemnations by diaspora Armenians, many of whom are descendants
of survivors who fled Turkey in 1915.

They insist that the policies and economic vicissitudes of the Armenian
republic have no direct, or even indirect, impact on their lives, and
as such, those outside the country do not have the right to interfere.

Stabilising the region
Some Armenians fear that their claims of genocide may be ignored
[GETTY] Richard Giragosian, the director of the Armenian Centre for
National and International Studies in Yerevan, contends that "open
borders and normal relations are essential and stand as prerequisites
to development and stability".

"An agreement with Turkey would offer Armenia an immediate end to
the country's dependence on Georgia, and would do much to lessen
over-dependence on Russia by bringing Armenia closer to the West,
while also bringing Europe closer to Armenia," he says.

"And in a strategic sense, the normalisation with Turkey is an
imperative for overcoming the two strategic threats=2 0now facing
Armenia - isolation and insignificance."

Russia and Iran
But if the US is attempting to wean Armenia from its traditional
allies, notably Russia and Iran, and to alter the dynamics in the
Caucasus, there may be challenges.

"Armenian-Russian and Armenian-Iranian ties are immensely important
to Yerevan. They may be impossible to break given Armenia's survival
instincts.

Nothing will jeopardise that," says Kechichian.

"Lest we forget, both Russia and Iran provided vital assistance to
Armenia during some of its darkest hours after independence in 1991,
when the country confronted a systematic embargo that was akin to
strangulation.

"Moscow and Tehran may well have acted for their own strategic
reasons to aid Yerevan, but the critical support was a life-saver
nevertheless."

Energy rush
According to Harry Hagopian, a London-based international lawyer and
EU political consultant with the Paris-based Christians in Political
Action group, the geopolitical situation in the Caucasus has changed
drastically since the Georgia-Russia war.

He believes that it is not simply altering the political balance in
the region or possible membership of the European Union that is at
stake. The key issue, he says, is oil.

"Signing the protocol on the historic lands would allow Turkey to
use them for its energy and transport routes - including the Nabucco
pipeline project - without any possible legal prejudice.

=0 D "I do not claim that those lands could return to Armenia, but
a customary line has been gratuitously crossed in those protocols
between territorial integrity on the one hand and the recognition
of current borders on the other - a distinction which is applied by
many countries both in the Caucasus and elsewhere worldwide, so why
not in this instance too?" he points out.

Armenia's needs notwithstanding, the speed with which the protocols
were presented and are being imposed on the diaspora indicate that
powerful outside forces are at play.

For Yerevan, however, these must be secondary concerns given the
historical burden that the Armenia assumes on behalf of the Armenian
nation.

It remains to be seen whether decisions made by politicians will
bridge the growing gulf that has emerged between the two to three
million citizens of the Republic of Armenia and the estimated seven
to eight million Armenians living in the diaspora.

"The Armenian government erred when it did not consult more
transparently with the diaspora and [instead] sprang the agreement
on them in the way it did last August," says Hagopian.

"After all, just as Israel listens to its Jewish lobbies worldwide
and even uses them to pursue its national interests, Armenia should
have done the same with its own diaspora."

IWPR Report
ARMENIANS TAKE STOCK OF TURKEY PEACE DEAL
On eve of the historic agreement with Ankara, Armenians discuss its implications.
By Hasmik Hambardzumian in Yerevan, Yeranuhi Soghoian in Gyumri and Naira
Bulghadarian in Vanadzor

Hundreds of Armenians have gathered to discuss the impending peace deal with
Turkey at testy town hall meetings all over the country.

The two countries' borders have been closed to each others' trade and citizens for
almost the entire post-Soviet period. Turks accuse Armenia of aiding the occupation
of their allies in Azerbaijan, while Armenians accuse Turkey of failing to recognise
the deaths of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey in 1915 as genocide.

Over the last year, however, a more pragmatic tone has dominated relations, and
two protocols are due to be signed on October 10, according to the Turkish press,
that will pave the way for the border to open, trade to resume, and diplomatic ties
to be restored.

The deal has been a hot topic in Armenia, where citizens are divided between
welcoming the material possibilities of the deal, and worrying about the moral
compromises involved.

Mayranush, a resident of the north-eastern town of Gyumri, expressed the fears of
many by citing a racist anti-Turkish comment from a 19th century Armenian novelist.
She was speaking in one of a number of discussion groups set up by the International
Center for Human Development, ICHD, a non-governmental organisation based in
Yerevan.

But the opposite point of view was just as frequent, with many debaters seeing the
peace deal as key to ending their country's isolation and its reliance on the
precarious trade route through Georgia.

"With the opening of the border, our situation will also improve, trade will be activated,
and this will bring an economic benefit to Gyumri first of all," said one debater called
Gagik.

Since Armenia's border with Azerbaijan is also closed - as a result of the dispute over
Nagorny Karabakh, which is ruled by Armenians as a self-proclaimed independent state
- the potential opening of the Turkish border is hugely significant for Armenia. Its
over-reliance on Georgia was exposed last year, when the brief Russia-Georgian war
left Armenia all but cut off from its markets in Russia.

However, the historical bitterness caused by the deaths of Armenians in the last days
of the Ottoman Empire linger, and Turkey's refusal to recognise them as a genocide is
a hot political topic to this day.

The ICHD tried to encourage participants in the debates, which took place in 14 towns
across Armenia in the week starting September 28, to be as forthright as possible.

"The more people keep quiet, the fewer opinions there will be. Try to create at your tables
an atmosphere like that of a family," Tevan Poghosian, ICHD executive director, told the
participants of each debate. He later said he was pleased with the results.

"They argued, discussed their positions and expressed their fears. This was our main
aim, to give people the chance to express their viewpoints," he said after the debate.

At the discussion in Yerevan, a dominating fear was that Turkish businessmen would buy
up all Armenian land, and end up dominating the country. The Armenian government, they
feared, was so desperate to improve the country's parlous economic state that it would do
anything to appease investors.

"I am against concessions. How can our government do this? You can always find ways to
make money, but how can they be prepared to make concessions?" asked Tigran, an
economist in Yerevan.

"The Turks will fool us, whether we sign the documents or not. We must keep our eyes open,
but we must sign the documents and move forward."

A number of opposition parties have opposed the peace deals, as have members of the
Armenian diaspora, much of which is descended from people who fled the Ottoman Empire
and ended up in Europe, North America, the Middle East or elsewhere.

Some participants at the Yerevan discussions speculated that opening the border, and thus
pandering to local business interests, rather than those of Armenians worldwide, risked
cutting the country off from its global network, and turning it into an adjunct of Turkey.

They asked if it was worth paying that price, just to benefit the wealthy who currently dominate
the Armenian economy.

"Maybe we are already paying that price," said one of the organisers of the debate.

"If we start having relations with Turkey, we will lose the diaspora," responded Paruyr
Amirjanian, an economist in Yerevan.

The Yerevan discussion was the largest, with 267 of the total 1,251 attendees. The majority
of them approved of opening the borders, and Poghosian was confident that the results of the
events showed Armenians want a change.

"They are in favour of opening the border, but do not hide their fears of this," he said.

The three parties in parliament that support President Serzh Sarkisian have already said they
will help push the protocols through, meaning the peace deal should become law.

"The documents will enter into force only if both sides ratify them," said Poghosian after the I
CHD's discussions, but he was not confident parliament would consider the people's concerns
before going ahead with ratification.

"We have presented all of our findings before ratification, but only after ratification will the
protocols be implemented. Only then will the worries and demands of the population be taken
into account."

Hasmik Hambardzumian, Yeranuhi Soghoian, Naira Bulghadarian work for www.panorama.am,
www.hetq.am and Radio Liberty respectively.
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Protocol News - now signed after last minute hitch‏

Armenia and Turkey normalise ties
Story from BBC NEWS:
Published: 2009/10/10 18:23:15 GMT

Turkey and Armenia have signed a historic accord normalising relations
after a century of hostility.

The deal was signed by the two foreign ministers after last-minute
problems delayed the ceremony in Switzerland.

Under the agreement, Turkey and Armenia are to resume diplomatic ties
and re-open their shared border.

The accord has been met by protests in Armenia, where many people say
it does not fully address the 1915 killing of hundreds of thousands of
Armenians.

Armenia wants Turkey to recognise the killings as an act of genocide,
but successive Turkish governments have refused to do so.

The agreement calls for a joint commission of independent historians

to study the genocide issue.

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and his Armenian counterpart,
Edward Nalbandian, signed the protocols in Switzerland after a delay of
more than two hours.

The BBC's Kim Ghattas in Zurich says the Armenians had apparently
raised objections to a statement due to be read out by the Turkish
delegation.

The accord needs to be ratified by the parliaments of both countries.

The ceremony was attended by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the EU's High Representative
for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Javier Solana.

International campaign

On Friday thousands of people protested against the deal in the
Armenian capital, Yerevan.

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"The international recognition of the Armenian genocide will be
hindered by this signature, or ratification," said Vahan Hovanissyan, a
member of parliament for the nationalist Dashnak Tsutyun party.

One protester told the BBC he was not opposed to the opening of the
border, but was "against the setting up of a commission that will allow
Turkey to further postpone declaring the killings as genocide".

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, when they were
deported en masse from eastern Anatolia by the Ottoman empire. They
were killed by troops or died from starvation and disease.

Armenians have campaigned for the killings to be recognised
internationally as genocide - and more than 20 countries have done so.

Turkey admits that many Armenians were killed but says the deaths were
part of the widespread fighting that took place in World War I.

A roadmap for normalising relations between Turkey and Armenia was
agreed in April.

Turkey closed its border with Armenia in 1993 because of its war with
Azerbaijan over the disputed region of Nagorno Karabakh.

Turkey, Armenia sign historic accord
ZURICH, 10 OCTOBER
NOYAN TAPAN-AP.
Turkey and Armenia signed an accord on
Saturday to establish diplomatic relations after a century of enmity,
as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides
clear a last-minute snag.

"It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The
Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the
Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they
would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later
and there were no spoken statements. Accordind to AP, officials say
Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a
solution.

The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations'
parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has
been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still
seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said
Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss
Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious
high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations
to resolve the differences
. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned
about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the
signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those
concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony.

Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with
the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without
leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where
she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with
the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the
intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a
Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of
his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian
Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove
back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear
if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians
signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening
their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past.

"We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will
cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters.
Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking
"responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite
what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide
.

The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension"
of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War
I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of
the historical records and archives to define existing problems and
formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to
Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that
those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the
establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition,"
said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time."

Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among
the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place.
Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor,
landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They
could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and
facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for
the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey,
which is a candidate for European Union membership.

"This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one
issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana
told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which
mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the
accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of
Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal,
saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He
said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and
could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main
opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any
concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should
end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday.


About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose
the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked
protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting
"Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and
linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in
recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the
Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to
withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed
the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said
Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in
Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there
are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar
said.

Assocaited Press
Turks, Armenians clear snag to sign accord
By MATTHEW LEE (AP)
10 oct 09

ZURICH ' Turkey and Armenia have signed an accord to establish
diplomatic relations after a century of enmity, as U.S. Secretary of
State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute
snag.

The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the
Swiss city of Zurich on Saturday after a late dispute over the final
statements they would make.

Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help
broker a solution.

The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations'
parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border that has been
closed for 16 years.

But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail
implementation of the deal.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further
information. AP's earlier story is below.

ZURICH (AP) ' U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton plunged
into dramatic last-minute diplomacy on Saturday to salvage a historic
accord between Turkey and Armenia aimed at normalizing ties after a
century of enmity.

The deal was supposed to establish diplomatic relations to be signed by
the Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers in the Swiss city of Zurich,
with Clinton among world dignitaries in attendance. But a dispute over
statements the ministers would make sparked a delay, forcing her
intervention.

"She's involved in working out an agreeable text," a senior U.S. State
Department official said.

American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe,
Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were
engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and
Armenian delegations to resolve the differences.

Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the
Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at
University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last
minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony.

Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with
the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without
leaving her car when the problem arose.

She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in
the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the
Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and
siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the
university with a new draft of his country's statement.

After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward
Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university
where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a
resolution.

The Turks and Armenians are to sign an accord establishing diplomatic
ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony
over their bloody past.

Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both
sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Major
countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the
foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European
Union in the room to watch the signing.

In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was
showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was
keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an
Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of
regional tensions.


"We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will
cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters.

Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking
"responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite
what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide.

The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension"
of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War
I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of
the historical records and archives to define existing problems and
formulate recommendations."

That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide,
contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were20victims of
civil war.

"There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with
Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of
the time."

Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and French Foreign
Minister Bernard Kouchner were among the leaders who were on hand to
attend the signing, when it takes place.

Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor,
landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They
could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and
facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for
the West.

Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is
a candidate for EU membership.

"This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one
issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana
told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich.

Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and
Armenia to reach the accord, is hosting the signing.

Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's ruling Justice and
Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are
being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form
friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with
Armenia.

But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said
Turkey should avoid any con
cessions.

"If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation
of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday.

About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose
the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked
protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting
"Traitor!"

On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic
ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering
its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian
invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993.

Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to
show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia
has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the
Brookings Institution in Washington.

"We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are
diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said.

Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in
Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in
Istanbul contributed to this report.
CBS News
Clinton Helps Salvage Turkey-Armenia Pact
ZURICH, Oct. 10, 2009
Signing Ceremony for Accord Opposed by Hardliners Back on After Dispute
Over Statements; Clinton, Swiss Mediators Intervene

U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Rodham Clinton engaged in last-minute
diplomacy on Saturday aimed at salvaging an accord to establish
diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia after a century of
enmity.

The agreement was supposed to be signed by the Turkish and Armenian
foreign ministers at a reception in the Swiss city of Zurich, with
Clinton among the world dignitaries in attendance. But
a dispute over the statements the countries would make sparked a delay,
and forced her to intervene.

"She's involved in working out an agreeable text," said a senior U.S.
State Department official. "She's talking with the Armenian foreign
minister, and she had a long talk with the Turkish foreign minister."

Clinton and the Armenian delegation arrived at the signing ceremony
about 90 minutes after it was supposed to begin. Clinton had abruptly
returned to her hotel just before the scheduled start as problems
emerged.

Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the
Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony.

The Turks and Armenians are to sign an accord establishing diplomatic
ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony
over their bloody past.

Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both
sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement.

Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with
the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the
European Union in the room to watch the signing.

The contentious issue of whether the deaths of Armenians during the
final days of the Ottoman Empire amounted to genocide is only hinted at
in the agreement, which calls for diplomatic ties for the first time
and the opening of the border within two months.

The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension"
of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War
I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of
the historical records and archives to define existing problems and
formulate recommendations."

That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, because Armenia has
said that genocide was confirmed by international historians and
further discussion could lead to deadlock.

Turkey denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those
killed were victims of civil war.

"There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with
Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of
the time."

Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and French Foreign
Minister Bernard Kouchner were among the leaders who were on hand to
attend the signing, when it takes place.

Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor,
landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They
could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and
facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for
the West.

Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is
a candidate for EU membership.

"This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one
issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana
told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich.

Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and
Armenia to reach the accord, is hosting the signing.


(CBS) Another source of dispute is Nagorno-Karabakh, an enclave in
Azerbaijan that is occupied by Armenian troops. Turks have close
cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey
for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to
protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993.

Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to
show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia
has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the
Brookings Institution in Washington.

"We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are
diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said.

A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the
agreement doesn't directly involve the United States, noted that
President Barack Obama spoke to Armenian President Serge Sarkisian to
reaffirm his support for the normalization process.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey was taking
steps with "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia but that it was keen
on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh.

"We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will
cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters in
Turkey.

Erdogan said Turkey's relations with Armenia after the agreement is
signed Saturday will run parallel to the resolution of the
Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.


RFE/RL REport
Turkish-Armenian Accords Signed After Last-Minute Snag

Switzerland -- Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu (2ndR) and
Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandiana (2nd L) shake hands as
they hold signed documents after a signing ceremony in front of (L to
R) European Union foreign affairs chief Javier Sol

11.10.2009
Harry Tamrazian
Armenia and Turkey signed landmark agreements paving the way for the
normalization of their relations late on Saturday after a last-minute
dispute that threatened to derail their unprecedented rapprochement
welcomed by the international community.

The signing ceremony held in Zurich, Switzerland was delayed by more
than three hours, with Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian
apparently objecting to a statement that was due to be read out by his
Turkish counterpart Ahmet Davutoglu. The content of that statement was
not immediately known.


Switzerland -- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaves as she
speaks with Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian (R) after a
signing ceremony of protocols between Turkey and Armenia was delayed,

10Oct2009
In the event, neither minister made any statements after sealing the
two Turkish-Armenian protocols in what appeared to be a compromise
arranged by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She and
Nalbandian arrived at the University of Zurich, the ceremony venue, in
the same car.

The Armenian minister looked stern as he put pen to paper and shook
hands with a smiling Davutoglu
in the presence of Clinton, the foreign
ministers of Switzerland, Russia and France as well as the European
Union's foreign and security policy chief Javier Solana. Their
attendance underscored the strong support for the Turkish-Armenian
rapprochement shown by the world's leading powers.

The signed protocols envisage the establishment of diplomatic
relations and reopening of the border between Armenia and Turkey
within two months of their entry into force. The documents need to be
ratified by the parliaments of the two neighboring states.

Speaking to journalists in Istanbul earlier on Saturday, Turkish Prime
Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan gave fresh indications that his
government will not rush to reopen the border before a resolution of
the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict that would satisfy Azerbaijan. `We are
in favor of developing relations with Armenia by protecting our good
intentions and in a way that will not hurt Azerbaijan,' he said,
according to `Hurriyet Daily News.'

In a televised address to the nation aired hours before the signing
ceremony, President Serzh Sarkisian warned Ankara against `dragging
out' the ratification process. `If Turkey does not ratify the
protocols within a reasonable time frame and fails to fulfill all of
their provisions within the defined period or breaches them in the
future, Armenia will not hesitate to take adequate steps corresponding
to international law,' he said without elaborating.

Sarkisian also defended his conciliatory line on Turkey, insisting
that it has not split the Armenian people or driven a wedge between
Armenia and its worldwide Diaspora despite his critics' claims to the
contrary. He again sought to disprove, line by line, their main
arguments against that policy and, in particular, their claims that it
has dealt a massive blow to efforts at greater international
recognition of the Armenian genocide.

`The genocide wound does not heal,' said Sarkisian. `The memory of our
martyrs and the future of our generations require having a stable and
firm statehood, a powerful and prosperous country, a homeland that
embodies the dreams of all Armenians. We consider the establishment of
normal relations with all neighbors, including Turkey, one of the
important steps on that path.'
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