Wednesday, 30 October 2013


Friday 6 June to Saturday 14 June, 2013
Among the many biblical, historic and Armenian sites, the pilgrims will visit: Mount of Olives, Garden of Gethsemane, Tomb of Mary, Armenian Patriarchate, Birthplace of St. John the Baptist, Way of the Cross (Via Dolorosa), Holy Sepulchre, Moun Zion, St. Peter’s Denial, Bethlehem, Armenian Convent in Bethlehem, Shepherds’ Fields, Mount of Temptation, Cable Car up Mt. Temptation, Dead Sea, River Jordan and Baptismal site, Mount Tabor, Church of the Transfiguration, Cana: Wedding Church, Nazareth, Boat ride in the Sea of Galilee, Mount of Beatitudes, Capernaum, Church of the Multiplication, Sail on the Sea of Galilee to Tiberias, Haifa (Jaffa) and the Armenian Church in Jaffa
£1,200 for shared room; £1,450 for private room
The cost of the Pilgrimage covers British Airways airfare, transfer to and from the airport in Israel (NOT LONDON), 4-star hotels lodging, breakfast and dinner every night, airconditioned bus transportation to all the pilgrimage sites, and boat and cable-car ride.
To secure your place in the 2014 Pilgrimage your deposit of £500, payable to “The Armenian Church Trust UK” must be received in the Primate’s Office (25 Cheniston Gardens, Kensington, London
W8 6TG), by Thursday, 14 November.
The Primate’s Office will organize an Orientation Session for the pilgrims to discuss and answer all the questions that they may have and also to go over the detailed itinerary of the Pilgrimage. For further information, about the pilgrimage please contact the Primate’s Office at:
The Primate’s Office, Armenian Church of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland, 25 Cheniston Garden, London W8 6TG

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Armenian Genocide Museum Institute and Canadian Museum of Human Rights to Sign Official Memorandum of Understanding
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DATE: October 29, 2013                                                               TEL: 416-250-9807

Toronto – On November 7, Dr. Hayk Demoyan, Director of the Armenian Genocide Museum Institute (AGMI) in Yerevan, will visit Mr. Stuart Murray, President and CEO of the Canadian Museum for Human Rights (CMHR) in Winnipeg, to sign a historic Memorandum of Understanding (MOU).
The objective of the MOU is to exchange knowledge and expertise, educational materials, and exhibitions with respect to human rights, share research and advice, cooperate to advance the academic study of human rights and reconciliation, the Armenian Genocide and its effects, and processes seeking justice and reconciliation, and work together to educate people on issues of human rights, in both national and global contexts.
The MOU will be signed in the presence of His Excellency, Mr. Armen Yeganian, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Armenia, officials of the Zoryan Institute, and representatives of the Armenian community.
In March of this year, Zoryan officials accompanied Dr. Clint Curle, the CMHR’s Head of Stakeholder Relations, to Yerevan, to meet with the Director of the Armenian Genocide Museum Institute, the Republic of Armenia’s Minister of Diaspora and other officials, to discuss the significance of the new museum being developed in Winnipeg in relation to the Armenian Genocide. At that time, discussions for formal cooperation between the two museums were held and plans for the formal signing ceremony later in the year made. The International Institute for Genocide and Human Rights Studies (A Division of the Zoryan Institute) (IIGHRS) has been instrumental in bringing the CMHR and AGMI together to the mutual benefit of both organizations and the Armenian and Canadian people.
While in Canada, Dr. Hayk Demoyan will also be making two public appearances at events hosted by The Zoryan Institute in Montreal and Toronto. Dr. Demoyan will speak about recent research on Aurora Mardiganian, and he will also update the public on the official plans for the commemoration of the centennial of the Armenian Genocide.
The official signing of the Memorandum of Understanding between the CMHR and AGMI is the culmination of the Zoryan Institute's efforts to bring the two institutions together. This agreement will help both institutions in their efforts to use awareness and dialogue as a way to promote enhanced human rights for the Armenian community, for Canadians, and for all visitors to the two museums.

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Location:       St. Gregory the Illuminator Armenian Catholic Church, 100 Northdale Rd., Toronto
Date:              Wednesday, November 6, 2013
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Date:             Sunday, November 10, 2013
Time:             5:00 PM
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Izmir vs Adana

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İzmir Adana 

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#1 JJK

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    Posted 01 September 2013 - 01:29 PM
    Hi All,

    My husband (ret US Army) and I are planning to move to Turkey and wanted to know whether Izmir or Adana was a better choice in terms of:

    1. access to the bases for health care, commissaries, etc
    2. expat community
    3. ability to walk around or go running/hiking
    4. safety as we may be traveling quite a bit for my job
    5. restaurants, shops, things to do
    6. availability and affordability of 1 BR furnished apartments (seems like this isn't too common but unfortunately, we have no furniture because we've both been working overseas for a while)
    We're spending 3 weeks in October to explore both places and hopefully, find a place to live. Can anyone refer us to a real estate agent we can trust? I went to the websites suggested on the forum but was a bit overwhelmed with apartments, flats, villas, detached houses, residences, waterside houses, winter houses, etc so I thought we should get an agent before we wound up in a tent somewhere smile.png


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          Posted 01 September 2013 - 07:36 PM
          Izmir is FAAAARRRRR better than Adana. No comparison. I have lived in both places.

          I don't mean to slam Adana, but it is farther east and the people are more "traditional." The population and traffic can get rather overwhelming. It is also a lot hotter in the summers.  Much fewer people speak English there.

          Izmir is kind of like the Turkish San Diego, maybe a little New Orleans thrown in. It has much more European and Greek influence (as do the people in Izmir), a beautiful park along the bay, great cafes to sit and watch people go by, far better night life. Excellent white-sand beaches are available around Cesme, at the end of the peninsula, that's less than an hour's drive.  The traffic can get heavy, but nowhere near as bad as Adana. The best place to live in Izmir, in my opinion, is Alsancak.

          Most people who are stationed at Incirlik Air Base, near Adana, when they go to Izmir they wished they had gotten orders for Izmir instead.

          Anyway no question, Izmir is better. To answer your other questions:

          1. You can't access any military facilities in Adana. The base is not open to retirees at all. It is a Turkish base with an American presence, and the Turks decide who gets in.  In Izmir, you can't use the commissary or BX. You can get in to the other facilities, like the club. This has to do with the status of forces agreement.

          2. The expat community in Adana is nil, as far as I know. Unfortunately it's about the same in Izmir. I am sure there are far more expats in Izmir, but there are no places they gather or activities.  It used to have a thriving expat community, and we would meet up a few times a week at Eko Pub. But the last time I was there I saw an old-timer expat who said I was the first native English speaker he had seen in a week.

          3. Adana has some places along the river where you can run. I don't recall seeing any other places like that, you would have to run on the sidewalk and across intersections. Izmir has some fantastic places. A long path specifically designed for running down the side of the bay in Alsancak, also there is a long promenade around Konak. Both have ample length for long runs.

          4.  I don't know how I would compare the safety because I don't know the statistics. From my impression, people in Adana are more aggressive in the way they drive than those from Izmir. I recall hearing about more violent crime in Adana, but it was usually between Turks over arguments or things like that. As just a gut reaction, I would feel safer in Izmir.

          5.  Adana has a few good restaurants, mostly all Turkish food. But Izmir far outdoes Adana in that department too.  For shopping, Izmir wins again. The same things are available but there are more malls and shopping opportunities in Izmir. Izmir has more cultural events from what I could tell.

          6. I think an apartment would be cheaper in Adana than Izmir, but I'm not sure. Have a look at the Renting forum and go to some of the online classifieds in both cities and you can compare.

          Unfortunately I don't know any real estate agents in either place. But if you're renting, it doesn't really matter. They just show you what apartments are available. They take a commission of one month's rent if you rent a place. Have a look at the Renting forum for more tips on how to find a place.  What I do is print out all of the advertisements of places I like, and go to one of the real estate agents who is advertising.  I ask them if they will also show me the other places. They will, but they have to split the commission with the other agent involved. So they may try to show you something else that you don't want simply because they are listing it, but if you stand up to that they will relent and show you the ones you really want to rent.
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            #3 JJK

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              Posted 02 September 2013 - 04:30 PM
              Hey Ken, 

              Thanks for the very informative post. We're booking our tickets to Izmir and maybe see you at Eko Pub! :)

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                    Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:44 PM
                    Actually I live in Antalya  province now, so that would be a long way to go! smile.png  Izmir has two city centers. Konak is the municipal city center, and there isn't much to write home about there, but Alsancak is the cultural city center. I think when you walk along the promenade by the bay, and go inland to check out the neighborhoods there, then compare that with Adana, you'll see what I'm talking about.

                    Go to and in the search box enter this:


                    This is Alsancak, actually it's Eko Pub. Look around this area. The neighborhood to the North is called "Punta." It survived the 1923 fire and this is the old quarter, there are lots of cool alley cafes there. Look for Kıbrıs Şehitleri, which is a pedestrianized shopping street.

                    Also take the ferry to Karşıyaka. It's at


                    Also a nice area to live, across the bay, and the rent prices are cheaper than Alsancak.

                        #5 ammo

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                          Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:33 PM
                          never ever Adana ... people are known for beeing over agressiv 

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                                Posted 08 September 2013 - 02:10 PM
                                Well, hearing that now people are being asked to leave Adana, kinda glad we picked Izmir! Hope things remain calm there...
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